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William Hague talks to AI expert Azeem Azhar - ‘Unchecked power ends with bad outcomes’

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🗓️ 24 April 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

William Hague sits down with Azeem Azhar, entrepreneur, investor and one of the world’s leading thinkers on artificial intelligence, to discuss how tech could be the great equaliser, how we must control it and how the world will be unrecognisable in 5 years time. 

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Guest: Azeem Azhar, entrepreneur, investor, author, thought leader.

Host: William Hague.

Producer: Olivia Case.

Further listening: Artificial intelligence: Our bright new future or the end of humanity?

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0:00.0

BP is working to bring more lower carbon energy to the UK, like developing offshore wind,

0:06.1

and we're keeping oil and gas flowing from the North Sea. It's and not all. That's how BP is backing Britain. Well today we're mostly in oil and gas.

0:16.0

We increased the proportion of our global annual investment that went into our lower carbon and other transition businesses from around 3% in 2019 to around 23% in 2023.

0:27.2

BP.com slash and not all.

0:30.7

BP is working to roll out EV charging hubs in the UK and we're keeping oil and gas

0:36.2

flowing from the North Sea. It's and not all. That's how BP is backing Britain.

0:41.8

While today we're mostly in oil and gas.

0:44.7

We increased the proportion of our global annual investment

0:47.4

that went into our lower carbon and other transition businesses

0:50.6

from around 3% in 2019 to around 23% in 2023.

0:56.0

BP.com slash and not all. Hello I'm William Haig and last month for my first ever outing on the story

1:19.0

I chattered with Prime Minister Rishi Sunak. Politics has been a very big part of my life.

1:25.0

I've even led the Conservative Party.

1:28.0

But I love ideas and innovation.

1:32.0

I'm fascinated by questions about technology, climate, geopolitics,

1:38.6

and so every month I'll be joined by key thinkers and leading figures to talk me through a rapidly changing world.

1:48.6

And although I've been thinking about something like artificial intelligence for a few years now, many people have,

1:55.3

how much do I really know about it?

1:58.3

Every week we are told it will kill our jobs, then that it will save our jobs, that it will bring about a revolution

2:05.3

in life-saving health technologies, or that it will ultimately, worst-case scenario, destroy

2:11.6

us all.

2:16.0

When it comes to artificial intelligence of these sorts of questions,

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