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Hello and welcome to trigonometry. I'm Francis Foster. I'm Constantine Kishin. And this is a show if you're bored of people arguing on the internet over subjects they know nothing

about. At trigonometry, we don't pretend to be the experts. We ask the experts.

Our brilliant guest this week is the leader of the Social Democratic Party,

William Pluson.

Welcome to Trigonometry.

Thanks for having me, kind of you to ask me.

Thanks for coming.

Our first question always is, what is the story of your life, how are you, where you are, what's been your journey through life that takes you here to this chair?

Right, well I was born in the northeast of England, mothers from Edinburgh, fathers from Liverpool.

He's a red nose. My father was involved in politics a little bit in the Labour Party in and out.

When 1980 came along and the big split from the Labour Party,

I mean the Social Democratic Party is an offshoot of the Labour Party. The Social Democratic Party is an offshoot of the Labour Party.

My dad left the Labour Party and joined and it was a very exciting time for us as a family and

also to just to see the launch of a new thing.

It was also quite hostile.

I mean they had open meetings in the Northeast and in the lights of David Owen came up to speak.

And there'd be a lot of Labour people in their heckling.

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