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Hey Harry, hello mate, how'd you fancy in the big match?

Well, funnily enough, I've been at both training grounds this week, from what I saw,

and you didn't hear this from me, your best bet is to have a few quit on half for two or more goals.

The lads are an absolute genius.

Sorry Harry, what was the name?

I've just told you, you need them lug holes training pals.

But Harry, sorry mate, I've got a run, the dog's done it in solder slippers.

Harry?

Listen to Harry and make your best bet up bet Victor.

18 plus, please gamble responsibly.

Welcome to the Intelligent Squad podcast, I'm producer Catherine Hughes.

In today's episode we're bringing you part two of a live recording from our Intelligent Times event series,

which took place in collaboration with The New York Times.

In this conversation, recorded in 2019, award-winning actor Willem Dafose

beats The New York Times European culture editor Matthew Anderson.

Together, they discussed Dafose long and very career,

his approach to acting and his understanding of the changing film industry.

Martin Scorsese himself has been in a bit of controversy lately over his pronouncements about superhero movies

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