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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

Will You Accept This Robe?

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

Slate Audio

News Commentary,, Government, News

4.63.4K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2017

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

In an elaborately choreographed prime-time ceremony this week, President Trump tapped Judge Neil Gorsuch for the Supreme Court seat that has been vacant for almost a year. We sit down with the Constitutional Accountability Center’s Elizabeth Wydra to examine Judge Gorsuch’s judicial record, whether he really is “Scalia 2.0,” and the difficult choices confronting Senate Democrats in the wake of this nomination. 

We also consider the ramifications of reports that some U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents are defying federal court orders around Trump’s new travel restrictions. Slate staffers Mark Joseph Stern and Leon Neyfakh tell us what they learned from constitutional law scholars about the possibility of a standoff between two branches of the federal government. (Read our Slate piece on the subject here.)

Finally, we zero in on one of the many lawsuits filed this week against Trump’s executive order. Aziz v. Trump centers on a pair of young men who were en route to join their father in Michigan when the order was issued, and wound up being deported to Ethiopia upon their arrival at Dulles International Airport. We’re joined by the Legal Aid Justice Center’s Simon Sandoval-Moshenberg, one of the lawyers representing the plaintiffs in the case.

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0:00.0

Hi and welcome to Amicus. I'm Dahlia Lithwick, and I cover the courts and the law for Slate.

0:12.7

There's a ton of ground to cover, but before we get to it, I'm going to offer up a tiny editorial note, which is something I don't usually do.

0:21.1

This podcast was launched out of a deep love and respect and regard for the U.S. Supreme Court,

0:26.2

an institution in which civility and reason and facts still truly matter.

0:31.8

And in that spirit, I think we've been at pains to be fair and polite and respectful with both sides in every case, even if we once

0:39.0

and a while felt arguments were without merit. And I'm saying this now because it is not possible

0:43.9

to be fair and polite in the current climate. And for the folks who think that it is our obligation

0:49.1

to always tell the other side, I need to stop and clarify. This is not the show that intends to give voice to enable to in any way help or normalize an administration that is demonstrably racist and misogynistic and, in my view, incompetent and cruel. And so if you want the show that gives equal time to the legal arguments being advanced by the Trump administration,

1:15.7

I think this is the time that I tell you you should probably look elsewhere. We make this show because we love the law. We love the courts. We love the Constitution. We love the presumption that

1:20.2

we treat each other well and that facts matter. And we are going to continue to probe deeply

1:24.5

both sides of legal issues that have two genuine sides.

1:28.4

But we're not going to give intellectual cover to what we think of is legal nihilism.

1:33.5

And so later in the show, we're going to take stock of the ever-growing pile of lawsuits

1:37.2

challenging the executive order on immigrants and refugees.

1:40.0

And we're going to talk to a lawyer involved in one of the first of those cases.

1:43.7

And we're also going to take a few minutes to consider what happens, constitutionally speaking,

1:48.1

if border officials opt to just ignore federal court orders.

1:52.8

But first, as you may have heard, there's a little bit of Supreme Court news this week.

1:57.3

Huh?

1:57.9

Supreme Court, remember them?

1:59.3

After almost a year with a vacant seat on the Supreme

2:02.1

Court bench, a seat that went vacant February 13th of last year, and a nomination that was

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