Will we ever escape Boris Johnson?
The News Agents
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🗓️ 2 March 2023
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
Boris Johnson is back. But then again, he never really went away. In a speech today at a soft power forum, he takes a swing at Rishi Sunak and his Windsor Framework after two days of lying low. We discuss the continual Johnson-shaped fly in the Sunak ointment.
And Jon and Lewis go through the latest Hancock WhatsApp developments in the Lockdown Files story, and talk to Mehdi Hasan, MSNBC anchor and author of Win Every Argument: The Art of Debating, Persuading and Public Speaking to talk about misinformation in the US media.
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| 0:00.0 | The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
| 0:09.0 | This is a global player original podcast. |
| 0:12.7 | Earlier in the week, we speculated that maybe Boris Johnson might have to go away for a very long time. |
| 0:22.7 | The good news is he's back, |
| 0:28.4 | and the even better news is that he's the same chastened, humble figure that we all remember. |
| 0:30.1 | By the way, I just want to just point out purely for accuracy. |
| 0:34.7 | When I stepped down, we were only a handful of points behind the Labour Party at that |
| 0:39.4 | moment back in July. I'm just, I'm just saying that. So Boris Johnson's track record is he brought |
| 0:46.1 | down David Cameron. He brought down Theresa May. He brought down himself. Liz Truss, well, |
| 0:51.3 | fair do's, she did bring herself down. He would have done, though, given enough time. And now, with those sort of comments, we were only a handful of points |
| 0:58.8 | behind when I stood down. Boris is back on manoeuvres. Welcome to the newsagents. |
| 1:07.7 | The news agents. It's John. And it's Lewis. |
| 1:11.8 | And later in the podcast, we're going to be talking about misinformation, an astonishing |
| 1:17.5 | court case that's taking place in the United States, where Fox News is being sued for having |
| 1:24.4 | told a whole pile of lies over the 2020 election. |
| 1:29.4 | And so we're going to be going to that. |
| 1:30.9 | But whilst we're on the subject of misinformation, a point of order, point of correction, |
| 1:35.4 | we said in the pre-titles that Boris Johnson had claimed that the Tories were only a handful of points behind when he stood down. |
| 1:43.2 | Unless he's got 11 fingers, they were more than a handful of points behind when he stood down. Unless he's got 11 fingers, they were more than a |
| 1:46.4 | handful of points behind because it seems that the polls from that time showed that the Tories |
| 1:52.8 | were well, well behind. 11 points behind. It's not like him to get things wrong. I know. He must |
| 1:59.2 | have inadvertently made a mistake. It's not like him to |
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