This is Ovious and Jillio.

Let's podcast alongside Joe Jillio. I'm Joe Ovious. We are inside Eifford's studios in downtown Raleigh.

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Kind of like Duke. Their sports rights are going to be in the cloud and then stream to you via Amazon.

We're going to talk to David McKenzie, who went viral earlier in the week after the Big Ten tried to tell ESPN and Duke,

you guys can't do that. And ESPN and Duke are going, yeah, we can. And why the Big Ten should be freaking out.

Not the ACC, what the Big Ten should be freaking out, not the ACC,

but the Big Ten should be freaking out about what's going on with Duke and Amazon.

We'll talk to David McKenzie about that,

our senior OG legal correspondent a little bit later on.

We also have a social media dump coming up.

Sarah Sivian is going to join us to talk some hockey.

But I wanted to start

today's show by triggering Joe Jillio. Joe was already in a grumpy mood on a wedding.

He's already grumpy. Is it, is it, were you just kind of processing our large adult son

growing up and getting married and moving off. Is that what it was?

Is that why you were grumpy? I have to get grumpy if you stay grumpy. I don't tell you this all the time. All right. Well, you stay. Fucking default. You stay grumpy. Put it on a shirt. Put it on a shirt. Can't be a puck possession team. Without having you want to puck. you can't get grumpy if you're grumpy all the time.

Joe Jillio.

Before, puck possession team. Without having you to park. You can't get grumpy if you're grumpy all the time.

Joe Gillio.

Before I go about the business of triggering Gillio,

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