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Hello and welcome to Trigonometry. I'm Francis Foster.

I'm Constantine Kissen.

And this is a show for you

if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.

Our brilliant and returning guest today is a professor of politics at the University of Kent

and the author of National Populism are a vote against liberal democracy.

Matt Goodwin welcome back to Trigonometry.

Thanks for having me.

I did that all from memory you must be impressed.

That's great.

He's really not impressed.

Second time. It's your second time is saying it.

Third time.

Third time.

It's good to have you back, Matt.

It's great to be here.

I watch every episode.

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