Donald Trump has sent an aircraft carrier, 10,000 troops, and eight warships into the Caribbean,

possibly as a precursor to a larger war with Venezuela and now possibly Colombia.

We need a new system. We need a new society.

We need to demand that which may have sounded impossible even a few weeks ago, but is not only realizable, but an imperative necessity. Welcome to the Socialist program. I'm your host, Brian Becker.

Today we're talking with Zoe Alexandra, the editor-in-chief of People's Dispatch, which you can find at

people's dispatch.org. She is the co-host of the podcast, Give the people what they want. Zoe, welcome back.

Thanks for having me. Let's just talk about the facts.

Obviously, war clouds are forming in the Caribbean, but they're not just forming by themselves.

The Donald Trump administration, the White House, Marco Rubio, the hardline Secretary of State,

are using the issue or the pretext of so-called the war on drugs to ramp up the

escalated threat against Venezuela. And now Colombia, again, Colombia is perhaps collateral

damage, but the Colombian president has been standing up acting defiantly against the

dictates from Washington.

Let's just get started.

A number of fishing vessels or boats that the Trump administration claims are narco-terrorists transporting drugs to the United States have been blown up.

The Trump administration is functioning as judge, juror, and executioner.

No evidence is necessary for these military strikes.

Anyway, let's just start with what's actually happened.

What's new?

Well, it's a very concerning escalation.

What's been happening in the last month since the beginning of September.

As you said, these essentially summary executions have been taking place.

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