Will This Reform Save Our Democracy?

The Mona Charen Show

The Bulwark

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.5 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Katherine Gehl, co-author of “The Politics Industry: How Political Innovation Can Break Partisan Gridlock and Save Our Democracy” joins the panel for a meaty discussion of voting reform. Katherine's Ted Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixk8d3GQJnQ Mentioned articles: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/06/us/politics/voting-rights-law-supreme-court.html?referringSource=articleShare https://echeloninsights.com/in-the-news/june-omnibus-quadrants/ https://www.prri.org/research/2020-census-of-american-religion/ https://political-innovation.org/advisory-council/ Special Guests: Bill Galston, Damon Linker, Katherine Gehl, and Linda Chavez.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Beg to
0:09.2	Differ, the Bullworks Weekly Roundtable discussion featuring civil conversation
0:14.0	across the political spectrum from center left to center right. I'm Mona
0:17.9	Charon, syndicated columnist and policy editor at the Bullwork and I'm joined
0:22.2	by our regulars Bill Galston of the Brookings Institution in the Wall Street Journal, Damon Linker of the Week, and Linda Chavez of the Niskanin Center.
0:31.0	Our special guest this week is Catherine Gail.
0:33.7	Catherine is the former CEO of Gail Foods and is now a political entrepreneur.
0:39.0	She is the author with Harvard Business School Professor Michael Porter
0:43.7	of the politics industry, how political innovation
0:47.7	can break partisan gridlock and save our democracy.
0:51.7	Catherine, thank you so much for being here.
0:54.3	Damon, thank you for being back. Welcome back.
0:57.4	And I'd like to tell our listeners that we have
1:01.8	touched upon this matter of rank choice voting and
1:05.0	final five voting and I promised you that we would get more deeply into it so
1:09.2	today is the day Catherine has has become an advocate for well Catherine tell us you say it's
1:17.6	not just ranked choice voting it's ranked choice voting plus final five So can you explain your innovation? Yes,
1:25.8	Mona and thank you for having me here. I'm thrilled. So Final Five voting is the name for a combination of two changes to how we vote.
1:39.5	And I'll tell you about those changes in a moment, but I want to start with the key difference between
1:43.8	Final Five Voting and ranked Choice Voting on its own.
1:48.8	So the purpose of Final Five Voting is not to necessarily change who wins. The purpose is to change
1:58.9	what the winners have the freedom to do and are incented to do while they are legislating, which is to say
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