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Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel

Will This Heartbreak Ever End?

Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel

Esther Perel Global Media

Mental Health, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Education, Health & Fitness

4.715.6K Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Nothing changes us quite like our first love—or our first heartbreak. After falling in love for the first time in his late twenties, he now finds himself navigating the pain of his first breakup. He comes to Esther in search of clarity, healing, and a way forward. Esther Callings are a one time, one hour interventional phone call with Esther. They are edited for time, clarity, and anonymity. If you have a question you would like to talk through with Esther, send a voice memo to [email protected]. Want to learn more? Receive monthly insights, musings, and recommendations to improve your relational intelligence via email from Esther: https://www.estherperel.com/newsletter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

just for me to hear it directly from you rather than in writing, just tell me the question

0:07.4

and a little bit about the context of your question. Of course, yeah. So my first relationship

0:15.8

ended around a year ago now. And as I'm 29 right now, it ended when I was 28.

0:23.6

And I've been having a really hard time ever since.

0:27.2

With ups and downs, luckily, it hasn't all been completely depressing,

0:32.6

but it has been quite a hard time.

0:35.6

And I reconnected several times after a breakup with my ex and that didn't help.

0:40.9

But that's also part of the issue, I think, and the question that I have is how do I let go of

0:47.2

someone that is not into me in a romantic sense anymore?

0:51.9

And I know that's for the better because the relationship was very hard and had very, or had many toxic dynamics that were not good for either of us.

1:04.0

And so my primary question is how to let go of a heartbreak that is your first heartbreak at the age of 29, which complicates

1:13.6

things maybe a bit. And of course, there are way more details to this in my own history as well

1:19.6

that led up to this point.

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