Will There Ever Be A National Care Service?
Rock & Roll Politics with Steve Richards
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4.7 • 909 Ratings
🗓️ 9 June 2023
⏱️ 35 minutes
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Summary
It is the most pledged policy in recent decades and yet never delivered … Labour proposed a national care service in 2010, Theresa May had a plan in 2017, Boris Johnson pretended to have one in 2019 … So far nothing. Now the Fabian Society has set out its ideas for a National Care Service with a report broadly welcomed by its shadow Health Secretary, Wes Streeting. But where will the money come from and does Keir Starmer have the political will to deliver finally? That's two of many questions I discuss with Andrew Harrop, General Secretary of the Fabians as we delve deep in thorny areas with the next election moving into view.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to rock and roll politics, the twice weekly podcast with me, Steve Richards. |
| 0:13.1 | Thanks so much for tuning in wherever you are in the UK and indeed around the rest of the world. |
| 0:18.6 | And this is the time of the week where we have a conversation, |
| 0:23.0 | a chance to delve deep with figures who have already thought widely about some of the |
| 0:29.3 | many themes we kind of try and navigate together in the Rock and Roll Politics Cooperative. |
| 0:35.6 | And today is certainly one of those days because in recent |
| 0:39.8 | times on this podcast, we've explored how the heck you find the funding for the demands for the |
| 0:46.6 | NHS and the structuring that makes sense. We've looked at the whole nightmarish, surreal |
| 0:53.7 | pre-election tax and spend debate that Labor have to navigate around. |
| 0:58.8 | And we've linked that at times to how you deal with social care. |
| 1:03.0 | And in a competitive field, I would argue that one of the more grotesque themes of the Boris Johnson regime was in July 2019, when he stood |
| 1:16.3 | out of number 10 for the first time as Prime Minister, always a huge moment in a Prime Minister's |
| 1:22.9 | history and pretended he had a plan for social care when he didn't, no doubt raising hopes of people |
| 1:29.1 | that were quickly dashed. And then we had the bonkers sequence where when he realized |
| 1:33.9 | he didn't have a plan, he raised or claimed to be raising a social care levy, but a lot of that |
| 1:40.0 | money was not going to go on social care. and then the social care levy was scrapped. |
| 1:45.5 | And that sequence is one of many when it comes to social care. There's something about this |
| 1:50.5 | topic which governments have failed to grapple with. We remember the Theresa May 2017 election |
| 1:58.6 | campaign pledge to deal with social care and it just got her into trouble. |
| 2:03.7 | Labor have gone into elections with plans. There's been the Andrew Dillnott proposition. |
| 2:09.5 | Anyway, this week, the Fabian Society has come up with its plan for a national care service, |
| 2:16.7 | its route map, if you like. |
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