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Today, with an end in sight, what will this war leave behind?

You don't just hear genocidal language and, like, turn the page on that.

I just don't think that that's even remotely, a remotely normal reaction.

As the U.S. and Iran meet to negotiate, for some, Trump's threat of destroying Iranian civilization continues to echo.

I'm Malika Bilal, and this is The Take.

Hi, my name is Nekine Oliye. I am the editor-in-chief of Truthout. We're a social justice

independent news media organization in the United States.

And I'm based in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Nguine, welcome back to the take. It is really good to have you,

especially on this side of the mic, because for those who are in the know, they might recognize your

name from the credits. You used to be one of our senior producers and my

colleague for more than a decade. You're also a friend of mine and someone I've been leading on

in the buildup and over the course of this war for a gut check of sorts. So can you tell everyone

else how you've been holding up in this moment as a journalist,

as a mother, as an Iranian-American? You started with the hardest question. I had the good

fortune of talking to a relative in Iran for Noru, such as the Iranian New Year, a couple weeks ago.

And I said, how are you? And even though I have a hard time answering that question, I can't imagine how she was feeling.

And she just said, I am. And I've been echoing that. Like, that's how I'm holding up.

It's interesting you broaden all those overlapping identities because I feel like all of them just feel so heightened right now.

You know, I feel like we might talk about this, but this war has been so heavy on the use of artificial intelligence,

and you're just seeing all kinds of videos and things that people don't know what to believe.

And so for my family and the group chat, I'm like, this is true, this is not true.

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