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🗓️ 18 June 2025
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0:00.0 | From the New York Times, I'm Rachel Abrams, and this is The Daily. |
0:10.2 | In the growing conflict between Israel and Iran, one question now looms over Washington. |
0:16.8 | How far will President Trump go to entangle the United States in a new war? |
0:22.6 | Today, my colleague Jonathan Swan on Trump's shifting stance on U.S. involvement |
0:27.9 | and the options that he is now weighing. |
0:42.4 | It's Wednesday, June 18th. |
0:53.4 | Jonathan, we're talking to you at about 4 p.m. Eastern on Tuesday. |
1:00.4 | And as of now, there's growing evidence that President Trump is seriously considering joining Israel's bombing campaign in Iran. |
1:14.5 | Which, that's something that Trump has said, long said, that he has not wanted to do. He has been very opposed to pulling the U.S. into more war. So can you just explain to start us off? |
1:18.3 | How and why has Trump's position on this shifted? |
1:27.2 | Look, it's not a simple story. It took place over a period of months. And yes, it's true, |
1:29.8 | Donald Trump said, I'm not going to get you into another endless war, Middle East war, but he's also said consistently that Iran cannot |
1:36.6 | be allowed to have a nuclear bomb. So basically what happened was Donald Trump leaves office |
1:43.9 | in January 2021. |
1:46.6 | And according to the Justice Department, the Iranian government hired hitmen to kill |
1:52.8 | Donald Trump. |
1:53.5 | People forget that. |
1:54.3 | This was revenge for supposedly for his killing of a top Iranian general in early 2020. And the Iranians also hack |
2:05.0 | the emails of some of his top aides, including his now chief of staff, Susie Wiles. Iran, |
2:11.3 | of course, denies all of this. But this created a conventional wisdom that God help Iran if Donald Trump gets elected again |
2:20.4 | because he will reign fury upon them. |
2:23.9 | And from the Israeli perspective, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for a long time |
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