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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

Will the Supreme Court Step Into Trump’s Hush Money Conviction?

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

Slate Podcasts

News Commentary, Politics, Government, News

4.63.1K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

As a jury in Lower Manhattan responded with “guilty” to all 34 felony counts in former President and presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald J. Trump’s hush money trial on Thursday, dozens and dozens more questions began to swirl. Will Trump appeal? On what grounds? Will Justice Juan Merchan sentence Trump to jail time? Will the US Supreme Court intervene? Is the gag order still active and in place? Luckily, we have the perfect guest on Amicus to answer all those questions to the extent that it is humanly and expert lawyerly possible. Ryan Goodman is the Anne and Joel Ehrenkranz Professor of Law at New York University School of Law. He served as special counsel to the general counsel of the Department of Defense (2015-16). He is also the founding co-editor-in-chief of the national security online forum, Just Security, a vital resource if you are trying to follow the many trials and appeals of Donald J Trump. Want more Amicus? Subscribe to Slate Plus to immediately unlock exclusive SCOTUS analysis and weekly extended episodes. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Or, visit slate.com/amicusplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That is the weekend of the longest, shortest week in history as we process the earthquake

0:59.0

that emanated from a Lower Manhattan courtroom Thursday evening as Donald Trump became the first

1:04.7

former US president to be convicted of felony crimes. Former President Trump was

1:09.5

charged with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records to keep hush money payments out of the public eye before the 2016 election.

1:19.0

The New York prosecution brought by Alvin Bragg was tried before a jury in Judge Juan Mershawn's courtroom, despite an aggressive defense strategy multiple violations of a gag order, overt abuse leveled at witnesses and the looming threat of a

1:36.4

glowering Donald Trump staring you down the jurors unanimously found Trump guilty on every count.

1:44.4

For those of us who watch this particular criminal prosecution with some furrowy brows and

1:50.3

worries that maybe this was the weakest by far of the four criminal

1:54.4

prosecutions before Trump. The truth was that it was I guess enough as it turns

2:00.2

out unanimously and beyond reasonable doubt, more than enough.

2:05.5

And while this case is going to stay tangled up in the appeals process for the foreseeable

2:10.3

future, it is still a testament to a system, rickety, ponderous, slow system that

2:17.6

still holds.

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