Will the Mark Meadows Revelations Change the January 6th Investigation?
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🗓️ 16 December 2021
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On January 6th, as rioters attacked the United States Capitol, many people attempted to communicate with the President through his Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows. Some of those messages are among the thousands of documents that Meadows handed over to the House select committee investigating the events of January 6th. They reveal that Meadows was in touch with the organizers of the Stop the Steal Rally—which precipitated the riot—as well as with several Fox News personalities, conservative activists, and Donald Trump, Jr, who told Meadows that his father “has to lead now.” After surrendering the documents, Meadows suddenly announced that he would not testify before the panel. On Tuesday night, the House voted to recommend holding Meadows in criminal contempt of Congress, and referred his case to the Justice Department for prosecution. Susan B. Glasser, a New Yorker staff writer, joins Dorothy Wickenden to discuss what we’ve learned in recent weeks about the involvement of President Trump and his inner circle in the events of January 6th, and what those revelations might tell us about the future of Trump’s relationship with his party.
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| 1:17.1 | It's Thursday, December 16th. I'm Dorothy Wickenden, executive editor of The New Yorker. |
| 1:24.0 | Mark Meadows served as Donald Trump's fourth chief of staff from March 2020 through the end of his presidency. |
| 1:31.3 | On January 6th, as rioters attacked the United States Capitol, many people attempted to communicate with the president through Meadows. |
| 1:41.3 | Some of those messages are among the thousands of documents that Meadows handed |
| 1:45.8 | over to the House Select Committee investigating the events of January 6th. This week, Representative |
| 1:52.3 | Liz Cheney of Wyoming, the vice chair of the January 6th panel, read a number of them into the House |
| 1:58.7 | record. They show that Meadows and others close to the president |
| 2:02.8 | were fully aware of what was unfolding. |
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