Hey, pull up a chair. It's tax on tap with David Axelrod and Mike Murphy.

As you may have noticed lately, the establishment's getting a little bit nervous.

You bet you a brother Murphy. No kidding. It's the witching hour. Bernie Sanders is on a roll here.

Yeah, and he's so Bernie, he can even go on 60 minutes a night or two ago and do a love letter to Fidel Castro and not pull it back at all the next day.

We're feeling the burn here, but I'm not sure it's to kind of burn democratic leaders want to feel.

I want to reserve the discussion of that because I do think there is an anomaly here, which is everybody's freaking out and yet Bernie continues to poll better, or at least as well as any other Democrat.

I looked up his real clear politics average today and he was a tenth of a point stronger against Trump than Joe Biden.

Now that may be before everyone is exposed to the greatest hits of 50 years and the Castro stuff and Sandinistas and all of that will disturb them.

Humility is the order of the day given what we saw in 2016 and Bernie Sanders is making a connection that is real.

There were polls out over the weekend, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, where he ran as stronger stronger than anybody else.

So it's fine to freak out, but one also has to try and understand why those polls are the way they are.

Yeah, no, no, I'm freaking out about the general election.

No, I understand. No, no, I'm talking about his polls in the general election vis-a-vis Trump.

Yeah, no, no, no, we're saying the same thing. I think Bernie is the weakest most risky candidate by a mile, but does that mean he's going to lose to Trump?

He has this unique power of grievance, the same rocket that propelled Donald Trump and the rules in the modern era are almost anything can happen.

And that Democrat nomination is worth a lot. I think a block of cement could get within two points of Trump.

So, you know, but we can get out of the general. Do you want to go through the primary stuff first?

Because, you know, we're doing this after Nevada.

One of the reasons people are freaking out who don't want Bernie Sanders to be the nominee is that, you know, in the first two contests he got about a quarter of the vote.

He's sort of underperformed expectations in Nevada in these caucuses.

And I'll reserve my comments on caucuses for the last call.

He overperformed. He basically vied with Biden for moderate voters.

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