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Strict Scrutiny

Will the Courts Let Trump End Birthright Citizenship?

Strict Scrutiny

Crooked Media

Philosophy, News, Government, Supreme Court, Society & Culture

4.84.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2025

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

May is supposed to be the calm before June’s opinion storm in SCOTUS-land, but not in Trump’s America. Melissa, Kate, and Leah kick off the show with the latest news, including Stephen Miller’s habeas suspension fantasies and the president’s blatant disregard of the emoluments clause when it comes to free jumbo jets. Then, the hosts are joined by professor Elora Mukherjee of Columbia Law School to break down last week’s oral arguments in the Court’s blockbuster birthright citizenship case.

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Strict scrutiny is brought to you by Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

0:05.7

You don't destroy 250 years of secular democracy without gutting precedent, shattering norms,

0:11.2

and dropping a few billion. The same people and groups that backed Project 2025 are part of a larger

0:17.0

shadow network that's relentlessly pushing to impose a Christian nationalist agenda

0:21.1

on our laws and lives. Church state separation is the bulwark blocking their agenda.

0:26.9

One of the last bastions of church state separation is our public school system. So they're pushing

0:32.1

vouchers everywhere. They're arguing for religious public schools. Yes, you heard that right,

0:36.7

religious public schools at the Supreme Court heard that right. Religious public schools

0:38.0

at the Supreme Court in a case we've discussed on the podcast. If you're listening to us,

0:42.8

you're seeing the writing on the wall. We can, we must, fight back. Join Americans United

0:48.0

for separation of church and state and their growing movement because church-state separation

0:52.4

protects us all. Learn more and get involved at

0:55.3

a.u.org slash crooked. Let's just assume you're dead wrong. Let's just assume. Let's just assume

1:05.6

you're dead wrong. You're dead wrong. Dead wrong. Hello and welcome back to strict scrutiny,

1:17.3

your podcast about the Supreme Court and the legal culture that surrounds it. Where are your hosts,

1:21.7

I'm Melissa Murray. I'm Leah Littman and I'm Kate Shaw. Now, May is normally a relatively quiet month on the Supreme Court beat.

1:29.0

The terms arguments are done, and the justices haven't started cranking out the big decisions

1:32.8

yet. But, of course, nothing is quiet in this timeline. The court scheduled an unusual May

1:37.9

argument over the administration's executive order purporting to end birthright citizenship.

1:42.5

And, of course, the Trump administration is continuing,

1:45.1

I would say even ratcheting up, its assault on the Constitution. Suffice to say, we have another

1:49.7

jam-packed show for you. So here's how it'll go. We will first start with breaking news, including some of the

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