Welcome to the Dispatch Podcast. I'm Adam O'Neil, executive editor of the Dispatch.

On the show today we have Bonnie Glazer. Bonnie is managing director of the German Marshall

Fund's Indo-Pacific program. She also is a co-author of a new book, US Taiwan Relations,

Will China's Challenge Lead to a Crisis, out recently from Brookings Press. She's been

thinking about the Asia Pacific and US policy for decades and she brought plenty of insight

into today's conversation about Taiwan. Hope you enjoy.

Bonnie, welcome to the show. Thanks for coming on. You're the co-author of a new book on US Taiwan

Relations. So maybe I'll start with my colleague, Jonah Goldberg's favorite question. What's your

book about? Well, the book is about US Taiwan Relations and it tries to provide a history

of the US-Taiwan relationship and then examines how that relationship has evolved particularly

on the question of the China factor and how Taiwan and the United States have managed

their detentions that have arisen from China. And that's in fact the chapter that I wrote

and it examines this eight-year period under the Trump and Biden administrations in the

United States and then in Taiwan that period has been the Taiwan-Taiwan has been in power.

She of course is still president and will wrap up her eight-year term in May of next

year. And then the final chapter which Ryan Has wrote is about scenarios of possible development

of US Taiwan relations going forward pertaining to again the China factor and then has some discussion

of policy recommendations going forward for how to preserve stability in the Taiwan

strain and strengthen US Taiwan relations going forward. We've seen a lot of aggressive Chinese

behavior in and around the Taiwan strait in recent weeks and months. Naval vessels coming

very close during freedom of navigation operations or what have you different examples entering

Taiwan's air identification zone that sort of thing. Are we living in a particularly dangerous

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