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🗓️ 9 December 2024
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Syria’s brutal dictator, Bashar al-Assad, has fled Syria for Moscow. On today's episode we speak to his first cousin Ribal al-Assad about the character of the man who tortured and killed millions of his own people, and ask what hope is there for Syria now that he’s gone? And should the UK accept the incoming regime of proscribed jihadi terrorists?
Later, Carole Cadwalladr tells us why she is concerned that the sale of The Observer to Tortoise media is the route to self implosion for The Guardian.
And we catch up with 30p Lee and his latest illuminating tweet.
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0:00.0 | The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
0:09.7 | This is a global player original podcast. We do need a political solution to this, and that's what we're |
0:16.3 | talking to regional allies about. It is a good thing that Assad has is gone a very good thing for the Syrian people |
0:22.4 | what we must also ensure as we go through this the rejection of terrorism and violence that |
0:29.0 | civilians are protected minorities are protected and that can only be through a political process |
0:33.2 | that's what we're talking to allies in the region about at the moment so So broadly a good thing then that our Prime Minister is rejecting terrorism and violence. |
0:41.0 | We're off to a good start. |
0:42.4 | But I guess what you're hearing from Kirstama is a wariness in that the liberation of Damascus, the liberation of Syria, the fall of Assad may be celebrated with a certain amount of weariness |
0:57.5 | of just what is coming at us round the corner. Yes, the king is dead. Well, he's an exile in Moscow. |
1:04.7 | Long live the who exactly. Are you greeting Abu Mohammed al-Jalani as a liberator, or is he still a terrorist? |
1:15.2 | Because that is how he is described at the moment in the West. |
1:19.6 | And how do you accommodate someone who once was seen as a terrorist, |
1:24.1 | who may now be the source of national liberation for Syria. Welcome to the newsagents. |
1:34.2 | The newsagents. It's John. It's Emily. It's Lewis. And a little bit later on, we are going to be |
1:40.5 | speaking to Bashar al-Assad's cousin, who lives in London and it has to be said, |
1:49.3 | is no big fan of his cousin who has just been deposed. That's still to come. |
1:54.0 | But first, we're going to talk more about the historic events in Syria. And after the breathlessness of the collapse of the Assad regime, |
2:03.4 | which happened so quickly, as we were saying on Sunday, with Assad's soldiers and his kind |
2:10.2 | of people who work for his regime, just basically giving up in the face of the onslau from HTS, this group, this rebel group, militia group, |
2:20.6 | which has led the attack on Assad and on his government. |
2:24.5 | There is a question for the West, which is what to do and how to respond to a man |
2:30.1 | and to an organisation, both Al Jilani and his group H.S., who are still considered by both the |
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