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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the spectators' daily politics podcast.

I'm Cindy Yu and I'm joined by Charles Grant, the director of the Centre for European Reform

and Fraser Nelson. Now, Charles, Richie Cinnack has been in Paris today.

What's the readout from the meeting? Was it positive?

Well, I think the main readout from the meeting is very positive on the mood music.

They actually hugged each other and they're both being incredibly polite and nice to each other,

trying to tell us they're all in a new bromance and everything's going to be tickety boo.

So that's the message they were trying to give us today, I think.

And what do you think Richie Cinnack managed to get out of it?

Well, of course, the main British demand from this summit was something on the small boats,

which Richie Cinnack is, of course, very rightly obsessed with.

The French knew they had to give the British something on this.

They wasn't their main motivation for holding the summit.

They were concerned about the broader due strategic situation, I think,

and Britain and France becoming friendly operators together.

On the small boats, the British said they're going to spend nearly 500 million pounds

over three years, which is much more money than they've been giving so far to the French.

In order for the French to open a detention centre for detaining would be illegal migrants

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