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Coffee House Shots

Will Starmer clash with the unions?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

Politics, Daily News, News

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2024

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

It's easy enough to keep both business and the unions on side when you are vague about your policies – and when your opponent is messing up so badly. That was Labour's position going into the election. But now that it's in government, can it keep that balancing act up? Next week's Labour party conference will be the government's first real test. James Heale talks to Kate Andrews and Paul Nowak, general secretary of the Trades Union Congress.

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0:21.6

you forward slash sale 24. Hello and

0:23.4

welcome to this special Saturday edition of Coffey House shots.

0:25.9

I'm James Heel and I'm joined today while the Spectators Economics Editor Kate Andrews

0:29.7

and Paul Novak, General Secretary of the Trade Union Congress.

0:33.0

Now Kate, Labour has been in power now for coming up to 100 days.

0:36.3

They've obviously claimed to be both the party of trade unions and party of business as well.

0:40.5

How well do you think they've been able to kind of set out their new vision?

0:43.3

Kirstam has seems to probably be the most pro- Trade Union Prime Minister we've had since

0:47.1

the 1970s.

0:48.1

Are labour doing a good job of reassuring business while also working alongside training unions as well.

0:53.0

Well, ahead of the election, there was no question that Labour were doing, politically speaking, a very good job of balancing what might in some cases be considered different priorities and tradeoffs that you might get trying to appeal to the business community and trying to appeal to the unions.

1:09.4

You know, Paul can correct me on this, but I don't think there was any real question about where

1:12.8

union support would be ahead of a general election that was obviously very

1:18.2

focused on the labor party and business was getting really tired of mixed messaging from the Tory party.

1:25.0

Sure, the corporation tax hikes, plenty of the narrative around windfall taxes that the Tories had actually brought in was going to be very frustrating to some business

1:33.9

executives and some workers but I think overall it was just that lack of certainty

1:37.4

the fact that it was not clear where things were going that saw business really

1:41.0

warming up to labor ahead of a general election but in the same way that

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