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The Bulwark Podcast

Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.6 • 8.9K Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

The people running the Republican grassroots are nativist populists, and it’s a space where opposition to Israel thrives, along with a heaping serving of antisemitism. Candace’s wild theories about the Charlie Kirk assassination has had a big impact among the young who get their news from TikTok and Instagram. And JD—who is the top-billed speaker at this year’s AmericaFest—is sending signals that he’s absorbing the nativist and anti-Zionist views among right-wing influencers like Tucker. Plus, Susie Wiles dishes on Trump and other top figures, and Stephen Miller’s wife is running a North Korea-style podcast with some of the biggest names in the administration—but with virtually no audience.

Will Sommer joins Tim Miller.

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The Home of Homes. Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. If you missed it at the end of yesterday's pod, for Bullwork Plus subscribers, I'm doing a Monday mailbag now. And many people gave me feedback on the amount of chores that I'm doing. So if you want to hear about that and want to give me feedback about that as well, or hear my answers to other random questions you all have, become a board plus member. This is the time of year to do it. You can do it on Substack, on Apple Podcasts, on YouTube, and you just go to the end of the Bill Crystal podcast. You get a mailbag. You also get Sarah and JVL's secret podcast on Friday, a bunch of other fun stuff. Today's show is free. It's for everybody. It's for the masses. And I couldn't be more excited about it. It is my colleague, author of the False Flag Newsletter, one member of the fingering trio, it's Will Summer. How you doing,

2:01.2

man?

2:01.5

Hey, happy to be here. It's good to have you. It is perfect. I've been wanting to just sort of do a deep

2:07.1

dive on all of like the Real Housewives of MAGA infighting with you. And we kind of

2:12.6

penciled you in for today a while ago. And little did I know that it would be the day after the historic

2:19.8

Candace Owens' Erica Kirk Summit. So I feel very good about that. We're going to get to it in a

2:25.8

second. First, it is for people who maybe, you know, aren't, and they should be following the

2:30.8

false flag newsletters as close as they should be. Since you've joined the bulwark, I want to read

2:34.1

just a couple of the stories you've done for us this year. You reported on how

2:37.8

the Blaze Glenn Beck's outfit identified the wrong pipe bomber from January 6th, and they identified

2:43.8

the wrong person based on a gate analysis, G-A-I-T, like a horse's gate, and it seems like they're

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about to be sued.

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You've reported on a MAGA influencer who has healing centers where people sit in front

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of big screen televisions and supposedly that heals them.

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