Welcome to the Bull Work Podcast, I'm Charlie Sykes. It is Monday and of course that means I am joined by my colleague will Salitan

Will how are you you you had a football hangover at all?

Neither of the outcomes I wanted happened Charlie I was rooting for the lions you know and if not the ravens and I got

nothing how about you at least it's entertaining and since the Packers weren't in

whatever you know what can I say you know's funny, you and I were talking right

before we started this, that we just assumed that today's podcast would be consumed by the

Gene Carroll verdict, and I do want to spend some time on that, but in this news cycle so much is happening. It's Monday

morning that happened Friday it almost seems like we've moved on but I do want to

at least pause because I think this is something that we just have to

consciously do now and then which is to slow it down and remark on something

truly remarkable which is that a federal jury came back on Friday and delivered an 83 million

dollar verdict against the former president of the United States for lying again about the woman he

raped. This is on top of the five million dollar earlier verdict so we're

at a 88 million dollars now again you, in the next couple of weeks,

there's going to be a multi-million dollar award handed down in another New York court for

Donald Trump's lies. We've seen the price of lies, you know, the cumulative price is rising.

Ask Fox News. Infow Wars Alex Jones. I don't know that he's ever going to pay it.

Your thoughts on all of this, that here we have the leading presidential

candidate who has created this environment where he is lied so

egregiously shows up in court Obviously for every minute he sat in front of that jury it

probably cost him another million dollars. So your thoughts on the gene Carol

verdict. Well thank goodness that there is some punishment in this world for committing crimes and lying about them.

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