Hello and welcome to not another one, the podcast with me, Steve Richards, Miranda Green, Ian Martin and Tim Montgomery.

Thank you so much for tuning in. We're going to pose a big, big question at the

start of 2025 and it's going to become, we suspect, a two-parter. Is Britain fixable?

But before we even begin with the question, I've got to ask you what? First time, we're all in

the studio. Good Christmas New Year, Miranda.

Did you take a break from reflecting on politics and just have fun in inverted commas?

What a strange idea.

Yeah, I mean, fun is an elusive concept for me.

But this is fun, right?

I mean, no, I didn't take a break.

I meant to take a break.

And then I actually ended up

working quite a lot but I did I did feel very festive this year and through we

threw ourselves into Christmas so that was lovely there was lots of family time so

it was great Tim after your 80 interviews when you dramatically defected to

reform did you manage to switch off at all?

Or were you thinking all the time, you know, have I done the right thing? What am I doing?

Or did you completely enjoy the break, the lull?

I slept an awful lot in the first couple of days.

And I think I stayed with my parents parents for Christmas and then you may have noticed

that kemi bedlock made a criticism on boxing day of the reform counter and that was my Christmas

over basically I think I did multiple interviews that day and um on boxing day on boxing day

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