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Security that's a launch pad instead of a limiter? It's possible. It's Octor. Welcome to the total soccer show and the glorious return of The Big Thing, the show where we sink our teeth into a major current affair topic in the beautiful world of soccer.

Today, there's arguably no bigger topic than a fundamental change to the structure of the American game.

USL's proposal to bring European style promotion and relegation to its professional league system.

In this episode, we're going to look at what's happened so far in this development, the timing, the ways in which you could change shocker in the States, and the questions that remain unanswered. My name's Ryan Bailey. Joining me today, it's a man who always be promoted to USL Division I in our hearts. It's Taylor Rock. Go, hello, Taylor. Hello. Promoted to the lowest division from which you cannot be relegated? That's high praise, Ryan. That's high praise to start the show. The only way is up, baby. That's the way we go. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Also here, promotion candidate Graham Rutherland. Hello, Graham. Hello, Ryan Bailey. There's no limit to how low I can be relegated. There's no volunteer. Also with with us on this conversation of man who's introduced third, but will never be relegated in our hearts. Of course, it's Joe Lowry. Hello, Joe. Oh, hey, Ryan. I'm imagining Graham and I in some sort of promotion playoff. I think that maybe is how this is going and the winner of the promotion podcast playoff gets up to the next tier. I don't know exactly how we're going to structure it. It's going to take some thinking, some voting from our ownership. But if we can get that super majority, I think we can make it happen. I love the phrase. Too much stress, too much anxiety in that situation. It's yours, Joe. Have the trophy. Self-relegation already. We're a few minutes in, Graham. Goodness. By the way, just to say, Joe, the phrase super majority, love it.

Yeah, no, it's good. It's good. Nobody really knows how many. No, it's two-thirds. But, you know, nobody really knows how many it is. It's just a great word that we get to use on occasion. It's great. So majority, obviously, like, over 50%. Super majority over two-thirds. I mean, two-thirds is over 50%.

I feel like the word majority would just suffice in that situation.

But sure, supermajority sounds good.

We call it majority majority.

The majority, no, no.

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