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Coffee House Shots

Will Nicola Sturgeon get her way?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Daily News, Politics

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2022

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Isabel Hardman speaks to James Forsyth and Fraser Nelson about Nicola Sturgeon’s latest plans to hold a referendum on Scottish independence on 19th October 2023, and whether they will even get off the ground.

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0:00.0

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0:21.7

Hello and welcome to the Saturday edition of Coffee House Shots.

0:26.1

I'm Isabel Hardman and I'm joined by James Forsyth and Fraser Nelson.

0:30.8

Well Fraser is in Inverness. I'm speaking from West Lothian.

0:35.5

James is our London correspondent for the day and we're going to be talking about something

0:39.9

that Nicola Sturgeon very rarely talks about which is Scottish Independence.

0:44.5

She's brought it back up the agenda if it ever slid down this week by

0:49.1

announcing her root map to a second referendum. James, just talk us through what she announced

0:56.4

and how credible it is. So she announced a plan to hold a referendum in October 2023

1:02.4

and she has requested a section 30 order from the UK government which is what she would need

1:07.6

to do so. I think we're not giving away any state secrets when we say that she has got about

1:12.4

as much chance of getting a section 30 order from the UK government as I have of getting a

1:18.0

call up to the Scottish rugby team. So she has also asked the Supreme Court to rule

1:25.2

on the question of whether an advisory referendum on independence without the permission of the UK

1:30.1

government would be legal. There the answer is less certain. I think it is highly unlikely

1:35.4

if the Supreme Court would say it was legal. I mean there's a chance the Supreme Court might say

1:39.2

well we won't rule on our hypothetical. We'd have to have seen that the bill would have to be

1:43.2

enacted first before we take a decision. But I think again it is the most likely out

1:48.8

is that the Supreme Court will say no you can't do that. The Constitution is quite clearly a

1:53.5

reserved matter to the Westminster Parliament and so that is without your competence.

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