This is Hidden Killers with Tony Bruske. Here now, Tony Brucey.

It's now the time to shut up and not say anything because you just, your name will

certainly be out there in that world. But if you're really clear and concise about it,

of look, I didn't do any of these things. And you know you did it. There's not going to be any

evidence that's going to get you. And you know you didn't.

But you could really lend a voice to protect the people who don't have much of a voice.

Is now the time to speak out and go, oh, my God, here's what I got for you.

How can I help?

Or, I mean, is it in everyone's best interest just to be quiet because, well, it's not my problem?

They may think it's in their best interest to distance themselves and pretend that they didn't know anything about it.

But it would sure speak well of them. I would have more admiration for anybody who would come forward and say,

you know what, I should have done more. I should have spoken up, but let me speak up now. I think

that would be the right thing to do. My other question is, this obviously has been going on for a long

time, allegedly, with him. I mean, the way he's, the stories of so many

of his employees that we've heard now in some of these docs of how he treated them, how he

abused them. And it's just like, it's kind of a cycle, it sounds like, that they kept going through,

you know, a lot of people over time because of that sort of behavior. What keeps someone there, though, when you do have an out?

Because I would say some of the folks that have been in some of the docs, I'm not saying

the ones that have been trafficked in and abused, but more like, I'm working in this

environment and it sucks, and I really don't like it.

What keeps someone there where they really could have an out of going,

you know what, I got to move across the country.

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