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Hi everyone, this is Pivot from New York Magazine in the Vox Media Podcast Network.

I'm Kara Swisher from Vox HQ in New York. How you doing Scott? Congratulations.

The before times I'm Scott Galloway. It's the before times. There's nobody here

but us Pivot people. So, you know, I was at your apartment. I'm in Scott's apartment,

which is very lovely, but I came down here to see people in RL as they say. And it's

quite nice to see actual people because I need you to prove to me, Scott, that you're sentient.

Easy. But how? I hate myself. How do you know that sentient beings that we create from AI?

I do not hate themselves too. I'm only asking because Google Engineer says the company has created

a sentient AI. Google showed him out the pod babe door for doing so. The engineer claims that

a chat box called Lambda, which is interesting, has achieved sentience. Google and the wider AI

community disagree with the claim, but Google has put the engineer on paid leave saying these

violated the company's confidentiality policy. The engineer says he passed documents about the AI

to a US Senator's office. Essentially, he's saying, Soilent Green is people. So, what do you think

about this? Well, so the basic notion was a bunch of, I think it was 17th century philosopher said

that what makes this human is the ability to have emotions or feel something, right? To feel pain,

to feel sadness. And I always thought that we shouldn't, we should be less obsessed with this

notion of creating a sentient machine. In other words, this, this value of, okay, I can think,

but I can't feel. And the ultimate objective of technology or the real fear would be when something

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