Will Liz Cheney or Mitch McConnell Save America from Russia?

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🗓️ 31 December 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Anne Applebaum, The Atlantic writer and author Twilight of Democracy makes the case for Liz Cheney or Mitch McConnell being the white knights of democracy, Siva Vaidhyanathan, host of the Democracy in Danger podcast, tries to help Molly Jong-Fast figure out why the right thinks other countries’ questionable governing style is the golden standard for the U.S., and finally, Frank Vogl, author of The Enablers How the West Supports Kleptocrats and Corruption, leaves us with two big questions: Is Putin hiding his dirty money in art or real estate? And will congress’ new kleptocrat caucus stop corruption in its tracks? If you haven't heard, every single week The New Abnormal does a special bonus episode for Beast Inside, the Daily Beast’s membership program. where Sometimes we interview Senators like Cory Booker or the folks who explain our world in media like Jim Acosta or Soledad O’Brien. Sometimes we just have fun and talk to our favorite comedians and actors like Busy Phillips or Billy Eichner and sometimes it's just discussing the fuckery. You can get all of our episodes in your favorite podcast app of choice by becoming a Beast Inside member where you’ll support The Beast’s fearless journalism. Plus! You’ll also get full access to podcasts and articles. To become a member head to newabnormal.thedailybeast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:36.1	Tason says apply. Happy holidays. We're off for the holiday, but before we left our respective
0:43.7	podcast studios, we recorded some amazing interviews with some of the best thinkers on democracy and
0:48.6	peril. Autocracy and all the dystopian things we love to discuss here. We talk to Siva Vagliatho,
0:55.2	who does one of my favorite podcasts, Democracy and Danger. Then we'll talk to Frank Vogel about
0:59.7	his new book The Enablers. How the West supports kleptocrats a corruption inundaturing our democracy.
1:06.1	But first, we have writer at The Atlantic, an author of Twilight of Democracy, Ann Applebaum.
1:12.0	Welcome to the new abnormal Ann Applebaum. Great to be here again. I read your piece in the
1:17.0	Atlantic and I just, I felt like I had to talk to you even though it's not a revelation. We all
1:22.7	know where we are, but I don't know why, but it felt like we had to talk about it right away.
1:30.2	Which piece of it? I mean, what I really want to talk to you about always is democracy and peril,
1:34.8	but you sort of have a front seat to it. So that piece was a looked at it from a different angle.
1:40.7	It's not about specifically, it wasn't particularly about American democracy, although American
1:45.4	democracy is implicated. It was more of an argument about autocracies, which they now cooperate
1:52.4	together and collaborate in sometimes surprising circumstances. So you would think that the communist
1:59.8	Chinese and the nationalist Russians and the theocratic Iranians would have nothing in common.
2:06.8	And yet they do now have something in common. And what they have in common is the common need
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