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Good morning, Lori, and even Grace America. I'm Hugh Hewitt Live in Relief Factory Studio West.

I had just wrapped up talking to a Vibretted gore. I'm Gu-Huitt Live in Relief Factor Studio West. I just wrapped up talking to Aviv Redi Gour.

I'm not going to play it for you until the end of the program because I do a little post-op on it.

But we did have one exchange at the end, which I want to lead. We're talking about Iran and what President Trump will do or not do.

And I said, is there anything that, can President Trump fall to a level of President Obama in your eyes if he doesn't do anything?

And here's what Haviv had to say about that.

I'm back with Aviv, Red Hat Gour.

Habib, what were you going to say about President

Obama? You ask me if President Trump doesn't bomb Iran, what happens? Can we compare him to President Obama? Yes. I want to be very clear about this. And I don't want to step into American politics, and I don't know half the topics that are setting American politics on fire. I'm going to say, just in the context of the Iran issue.

Nothing President Trump does with

Iran will ever bring him down to the level of the disaster that the JCPOA represented. The fact that

the JCPRI said that they can, you know, inspectors can always go anywhere, but then there was a 24-hour

period where they would have to have a consultation over whether they would go anywhere. The fact that it didn't concern the ballistic missile

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