Will Iran descend into civil war?
Americano
The Spectator
4.0 • 762 Ratings
🗓️ 2 March 2026
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
Freddy is joined by historian and former diplomat, Charlie Gammell. They discuss the situation in Iran, whether the US is heading for a decisive confrontation, and examine the regional consequences: proxy warfare, Gulf energy security, Pakistan’s delicate position, and migration pressures on Europe.
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| 0:33.8 | Hello and welcome back to the Americana Show. My name is Freddie Gray. I am the deputy editor of the |
| 0:41.3 | spectator and the US editor. And I'm pleased to tell you that this is the 10th year of the |
| 0:47.7 | Americano podcast. And I think it's fair to say it's been a fairly fascinating time in American politics, life and culture. |
| 0:57.5 | And that's what we talk about every episode on this podcast. So please keep listening and provide as |
| 1:03.9 | much feedback as you like. I'm delighted to be joined here at the Spectators' offices by Charlie Gamal, |
| 1:10.0 | who is formerly of the Foreign office on the Iran desk. |
| 1:15.2 | He's also the author of The Pearl of Corrassan, A History of Herat. |
| 1:21.6 | Charlie, you have written a piece over the weekend, a very good piece for the spectator on what's been going on in Iran. |
| 1:29.5 | Today, more developments. |
| 1:32.6 | Donald Trump has just said that the big one is referring to a wave, I think, another wave of attacks. |
| 1:40.8 | The timeline is ambiguous at the moment as far as what the Americans are thinking. |
| 1:46.8 | Trump said it could be four weeks. We could go longer if we need to. He's also said he thinks |
| 1:52.1 | it could be shorter. He has said all sorts of things to all sorts of journalists. |
| 1:59.9 | What is your latest impression of what is going on? |
| 2:04.1 | So I think potentially the interesting development I've seen in the American narrative, |
| 2:08.6 | you've seen Pete Hexeth today talking about giving the Iranians a once-in-a-generation |
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