Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman.

It is cold, it is gray, it is dark in Boise, Idaho, and perhaps that is fitting because in just two days, less than that, Brian Coburger,

who was accused and now admits to killing the four University of Idaho students.

He's going to be sentenced at a courthouse just about two blocks from where I'm sitting.

And we're going to bring all that to you live.

Welcome to Surviving the Survivor.

This is the show that brings you the very best guests in all of true crime.

You just heard from the retired Pullman police chief who then went on to work at Washington

State where he is the police chief and he's retiring completely come August, but just filled

us in on what was going on with the

investigation in both the months leading up to the arrest of Brian Koberger and after the fact.

Well, when this was all going on and we were still kind of in the dark about exactly what was

happening, we spoke to some people in the Moscow

Pullman area and tonight they are back to give us their reaction to all the developments over the

last few years, the brutal development. Cindy Hollenbeck has always been nothing but

unbelievably kind and sweet behind the scenes. She is here from Pullman. Linda Moser joined us last time

on blue. She's green. We're getting all the colors of the spectrum. And last but certainly not

least, you have Amanda Johnston in the house who lives very close to that hiking trail where

if you watch the Dateline episode,

people said they saw Brian Koberger there and went on to say that he seemed pretty creepy.

So let's start with this.

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