Will Humanity Survive AI?

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

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4.6 • 907 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2023

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Gary Marcus is an expert in artificial intelligence, a cognitive scientist and host of the podcast “Humans vs Machines with Gary Marcus.” In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Gary Marcus discuss the shortcomings of the dominant large language model (LLM) mode of artificial intelligence; why he feels that the AI industry is on the wrong path to developing superintelligent AI; and why he nonetheless believes that the eventual emergence of superior AI may pose a serious threat to humanity. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John Taylor Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	History.
0:01.0	What does this make you think of?
0:04.0	Swords, armor, castles, cannons, trenches, tanks, tanks?
0:10.0	Or perhaps it makes you think of bravery, courage, resistance.
0:15.6	We shall fight on the beaches and in the streets.
0:19.6	Uncover a thousand years of incredible defensive stories.
0:23.4	A brand new series, Defending Europe, Mondays at 9 on National Geographic. You're going to. And now the good fight with Yasha Monk. Hi there my name is Francisco Toro I'm a contributing editor at Persuation I've
0:59.2	been writing about naive Boque and what's been happening in El Salvador, which I think a lot of people have some vague notion of that there have been these huge police and army raids, where tens of thousands of people who looked like gangsters or might once have been
1:14.3	gangsters have been thrown in jail, but maybe what people don't realize so much is that
1:19.3	Bokele has been wildly successful on the back of this drive and is spawning this little army of
1:26.4	imitators all up and down Latin America in Guatemala in in Colombia, in Brazil.
1:33.5	We see a lot of politicians who realize, wow,
1:37.2	turns out that if you absolutely ignore civil liberties
1:40.7	and throw 50,000 people that may include many dangerous criminals and
1:45.2	jails, suddenly your popularity can rise to 70, 80, 90 percent.
1:50.1	91 percent, 92 percent is where Bouquetlai is now.
1:53.4	His detractors are now fewer than the people in the US
1:56.9	who believe the moon landings were faked.
2:00.2	So there's this consensus in El Salvador behind this policy that is predicated on just ignoring civil liberties.
2:08.0	This is very worrying to me and it should be to you as well. The piece is titled
2:15.0	When Populism Succeed, it's in persuasion. I think I like it.
2:20.0	Francisco Toro's piece called When Populism Succeed was published by Persuasion.
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