Will Hamas Disarm, and What Does Gaza’s Future Governance Look Like?

Fareed Zakaria GPS

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🗓️ 19 October 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Today on the show, Fareed is joined by counterterrorism expert Matthew Levitt and RAND distinguished Israel policy chair Shira Efron for a discussion on the future of the fragile truce in Gaza, and what post-war governance in the enclave could look like.Then, China expert Alice Han speaks with Fareed about Beijing’s strategy in a new round of tit-for-tats in the US-China trade war.Finally, Fareed talks with retired Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy about his new memoir, “Life, Law & Liberty," and the threats an aggressive executive branch poses to America’s system of checks and balances. GUESTS: Matthew Levitt (@Levitt_Matt), Shira Efron (@ShiraEfron), Alice Han, Anthony Kennedy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is GPS, the Global Public Square.
0:05.0	Welcome to all of you in the United States and around the world.
0:08.0	I'm Farid Zakaria.
0:10.0	Today on the program, President Trump took a victory lap this week,
0:16.0	declaring an end to the war in Gaza.
0:20.0	The next steps of his plan include Israel's further withdrawal declaring an end to the war in Gaza.
0:21.6	The next steps of his plan include Israel's further withdrawal and Hamas' disarmament.
0:27.6	And Trump warned if Hamas didn't disarm, the U.S. would disarm it.
0:33.6	It'll happen quickly and perhaps violently.
0:36.6	What happens next?
0:38.3	Then, the U.S. trade war with China escalated last week
0:43.3	when Donald Trump threatened to impose an extra 100% tariff on Chinese imports.
0:50.3	He later wrote on social media, it will all be fine.
0:55.0	Why the escalation?
0:56.0	And will it really be fine?
0:58.0	I'll ask China scholar Alice Han.
1:01.0	And America's system of checks and balances is as old as the Constitution itself.
1:08.0	I'll talk to former Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy about the threats the system
1:14.1	faces today from an aggressive executive branch.
1:21.3	But first, here's my take.
1:24.3	Last week's ceasefire in Gaza was an undisputed success for President Trump and his style of foreign policy.
1:31.3	He and his team engaged in intense personal diplomacy, persuading Israel to hold its fire, and coaxing the Qataris, Egyptians and Turks to lean on Hamas.
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