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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots.

I'm Katie Balls and I'm joined by James

Reciper Fraser Nelson. Michael Gove has been announced as the minister who is going to lead

a review into vaccine passports. This is ahead of the great easing stage four in June,

where by which many Tory MPs and members of the public hope that there'll be no restrictions

at all. Fraser, what does this mean Michael Gover's appointment here? Because when it comes to the

debate so far, there has been this sense that actually Michael Gover is one of these people

pushing for slow easing, cautious about COVID infections rising. So what does it mean in the sense that he'll now be in

charge for this? In one sense, it means that the inquiry will have a foregone conclusion,

that vaccine ID cards will be brought in. Michael Gove is quite consistently being on the hawkish

end of most lockdown decisions. We know this from his what he says in

cabinet, from his overall demeanour, from his rules cabinet secretary, putting forward the sage

advice without anything really to combat it. Also his decision not to balance the sage's advice

with other advice about the effect of lockdown on the

school, on the economy and mental health. The way that the state is presented to us, here are

the potential number of deaths, therefore we must lock down, and by the way, don't ask what's

happening on cancer, don't ask what's happening in education. That's all sort of the cabinet

office's way of describing

this pandemic. Now, Boris Johnson is no great admirer of ID cards. He wrote very passionately

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