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Will Every Piece of Media Enter the Internet as an NFT? Variant Fund Says Yes - Ep.317

Unchained

Laura Shin

Tech News, Business News, News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2022

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Variant Fund is a venture capital firm that describes itself as “a first-check crypto fund investing in the ownership economy.” Jesse Walden and Li Jin, co-founders and general partners at Variant, join Unchained to discuss the ownership economy, issues with web2 and web3, NFTs, the future of work, and more. Highlights: where Li and Jesse met and how their backgrounds as investors + founders led them to the crypto space how Li’s investing niche, which she describes as the passion economy, ended up intersecting with crypto why Li believes that web3 platforms will be better for creators than the current web2 ecosystem why Jesse was so inspired by Bitcoin after working in the music industry for so many years why Jesse believes that NFTs are the “port of entry” for the mainstream adoption of crypto what other use-cases exist for NFTs outside of the JPEG or PNG meme (and why Jesse is so excited about music NFTs) why Li believes that web3 tools can help fix the issues inherent to the “gig economy” Li and Jesse respond to criticisms of web3 coming from Jack Dorsey and Moxie Marlinspike how Variant Fund thinks about investing in crypto projects what token allocation Variant Fund targets when investing in crypto projects why mainstream platforms are experiencing backlash for integrating with NFTs and crypto what trends in NFTs, DAOs, and the ownership economy Jesse and Li think will pop in 2022 Get Access to Premium Content Sign up for a premium Bulletin subscription! For becoming a premium subscriber, you'll get access to: a premium-only Discord group premium-only interviews the opportunity to ask questions the chance to weigh in on guests for Unchained and whatever other future offerings we add to the mix The special launch price until February 14 $2.99/mo or $29.99/year. Starting on February 15, the price increases to $4.99/mo or $49.99/year. Join now! Get a Signed Book Plate! Many of you have asked me how you can get a signed copy of the book. Here’s how: Pre-order the book, which you can do at bit.ly/cryptopians. Make a social media post about the book that includes the pre-order link, bit.ly/cryptoptians or to the book on any bookseller of your choice. Send a copy of your receipt to hello@unchainedpodcast.com with the subject line, “signed book plate.” In the email, include a pdf of your receipt + a screenshot of or a link to your social media post + the address to which you’d like me to send the book plate + the name of who you’d like me to dedicate the book plate to. If you show a pre-order receipt that shows you bought more than one format of the book, such as an audiobook and a hardcover, you can get two signed book plates. Finally, if you sign up for the Bulletin premium subscription plus do all the above to get a signed book plate, you’ll also receive a POAP. Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com: https://crypto.onelink.me/J9Lg/unconfirmedcardearnfeb2021           Beefy Finance: https://beefy.finance   Bosonic: https://bosonic.digital/ Alchemy Pay:  https://alchemypay.org   Episode links   Li Jin Twitter: https://twitter.com/ljin18  Substack: https://li.substack.com/ Li Jin on the creator economy The future of the creator economy https://drive.google.com/file/u/1/d/1C3fBfPgWxf-zqezGlPFr7VXIetlHlnaZ/view  https://twitter.com/ljin18/status/1454096370281943041  What the creator economy is doing wrong https://li.substack.com/p/legitimacy-lost  How to fix the “gig” style economy for creators https://li.substack.com/p/the-creator-economy-is-in-crisis How the creator economy could power universal basic income https://li.substack.com/p/the-case-for-universal-creative-income What labor should look like in Web3 https://li.substack.com/p/a-labor-movement-for-the-platform Building the middle class of the creator economy https://li.substack.com/p/building-the-middle-class-of-the Other Web3 is the “golden age” of content https://every.mirror.xyz/y_WLA-Tk3VF5uPqHi-glDLVVfHxLUbjXakRI7SMISas  Transitioning to Web3 from a non-tech perspective https://twitter.com/ljin18/status/1479111931977867275    Jesse Walden Twitter: https://twitter.com/jessewldn  Website (no blogs since 2020): https://jessewalden.com/  Random Tweets DAOs https://twitter.com/jessewldn/status/1459014962207244290 https://twitter.com/jessewldn/status/1470406564582498315  NFTs https://twitter.com/jessewldn/status/1473641606951669767  Music NFTs x Sound XYZ https://twitter.com/jessewldn/status/1471148257892044812 Commoditizing a compliment https://twitter.com/jessewldn/status/1465713306363117578  Writing NFTs make the internet ownable https://variant.mirror.xyz/T8kdtZRIgy_srXB5B06L8vBqFHYlEBcv6ae2zR6Y_eo Product vs. Protocol https://variant.fund/writing/balance-product-protocol-web3 Leadership in the ownership economy https://variant.fund/writing/leadership-in-the-ownership-economyscaling-decision  How DeFi crosses the chasm https://variant.fund/writing/how-does-defi-cross-the-chasm Crypto’s Business Model is Familiar. What Isn’t is Who Benefits https://variant.fund/writing/cryptos-business-model-is-familiar.-what-isnt-is  Narrative Economics https://variant.fund/writing/narrative-economics  Progressive decentralization https://variant.fund/writing/progressive-decentralization-a-playbook-for-building Layers of blockchain computing https://variant.fund/writing/layers-not-eras-of-blockchain-computing   Variant Fund Variant Fund Twitter https://twitter.com/variantfund Variant Fund website https://variant.fund/ Writing:  https://variant.fund/writing  Mirror Blog (Feb 2021 article on NFTs) https://variant.mirror.xyz/  Variant Fund + Atelier joining forces https://variant.fund/writing/atelier-ventures-and-variant-fund-are-joining-forces  https://techcrunch.com/2021/10/19/variant-debuts-a-new-110m-fund-for-crypto-startups-announces-li-jin-has-joined-as-a-general-partner/ Variant Fund team https://twitter.com/spencernoon/status/1450500555961507844 Learn more about your ad choices. 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0:00.0

Hi, all. I have two really important announcements today.

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First, many of you have asked me how you can get a signed copy of the book.

0:08.0

Here's how. First, pre-order the book, which you can do at Bentley Slash Cryptopians.

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Second, make a social media post about the book that includes the pre-order link,

0:19.0

Bentley Slash Cryptopians, or you can link to the book on any bookseller of your choice.

0:25.0

Third, send a copy of your receipt to Hello at UnchainedPodcast.com with a subject line signed book plate.

0:34.0

In the email include a PDF of your receipt, a screenshot in a link to your social media post,

0:42.0

and the address to which you'd like me to send the book plate, plus the name of who you'd like me to dedicate the book plate to.

0:49.0

If you show a pre-order receipt that shows you bought more than one format of the book, such as an audiobook as well as the hardcover,

0:57.0

you can get two signed book plates. Finally, as you'll hear in the next announcement,

1:02.0

I am also launching a premium subscription of my Bulletin newsletter.

1:06.0

If you do all the above, plus become a premium subscriber to the Bulletin newsletter, you will also receive a POAP.

1:13.0

Now for that second announcement.

1:16.0

I mentioned last week that I am now offering a premium subscription on my Bulletin newsletter.

1:21.0

It was primarily accessed to a Facebook discussion group since Bulletin is a Facebook newsletter.

1:27.0

However, many of you expressed that you are either not on Facebook or not fans of Facebook, so we've decided to make the group a discord.

1:36.0

In addition, subscribers will get access to interviews with up-and-coming projects, which will be a more casual, shorter version of Unchained,

1:45.0

consisting of the pre-interviews that I've long done for the show, but never before released.

1:50.0

Subscribers will also have a say in which guests and topics are covered on Unchained itself.

1:56.0

You'll also get to weigh in on what questions are asked and will have access to subscriber-only chats with guests.

2:02.0

The introductory price, which is available now, is $2.99 a month or $29.99 a year.

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On February 15, the regular price will kick in at $4.99 a month or $49.99 a year.

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