Hello and welcome to the Spectator's Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American politics and the Trump presidency in 2017.

I'm Freddie Gray and I'm Deputy Editor of The Spectator.

And today we're going to be doing an excerpt from the spectator's main podcast because our Trump cover piece is by Andy Basevich, and it's very interesting indeed.

So Andy, you mentioned that Trump's uniquely unpredictable. Is there anything we can predict at this stage?

Well, I think that he'll probably use the first person singular pronoun more frequently than any president that we've had in the last century or so.

Presidents tend to speak in the first person plural, you know, we, but not Trump. It's all about him.

And Freddie, in Andrew's piece, he suggests that Trump isn't really committed to globalism.

How is that going to pan out?

Well, I think it'd be very interesting to see.

I think that in a sense he's a continuation of Obama, as Andy says in his excellent piece,

in that the sort of idea of American leadership in the world is on the retreat in America.

But in other ways, he's obviously very different.

I mean, he's a sort of negative Obama,

and I don't necessarily mean negative in a negative way.

Whereas Obama was about sort of global healing and bringing the world together.

Trump is purely, is a businessman first and foremost,

and he'll just look at America's national interests,

much as a businessman would look at the interests of his company abroad.

Is it really possible to untangle America's relationships with all of these other countries?

It'll be very difficult. And I think there's already areas where we're seeing Trump will be a much more predictable Republican than we might have expected.

I think perhaps Andy will be much better on this than me. But in the relationship with Israel, he seems to be very, very close to the largest or most

prominent supporters of Israel in American politics. Is that right, Andy? Well, I think so. His

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