Will Disinformation Doom Our Democracy? with Nina Jankowicz, Sasha Issenberg & Barbara McQuade

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.2 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 April 2024

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

“Flood the zone with shit.” It’s a zinger and a strategic imperative, from the oh-so-eloquent Steve Bannon, being expertly executed by Donald Trump and the MAGA-fied GOP. To help us make sense of what our information morass means for the 2024 election, we’re joined by three political disinformation experts: Nina Jankowicz, a disinformation researcher, the former executive director of the Disinformation Governance Board at the Department of Homeland Security, and the author of "How To Lose the Information War"; Sasha Issenberg, a journalist and the author of five books, most recently, “The Lie Detectives”; and Barabara McQuade, a former U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan who teaches law at the University Michigan and recently authored “Attacks from Within.” Questions? Comments? Email us at [email protected] or find us on social media. We’re on Instagram/Threads as @karaswisher and @nayeemaraza Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:11.0	or your outrageous food delivery habits.
0:13.7	crypto is finance for everyone everywhere all the time.
0:18.4	Krakhan, see what crypto can be.
0:21.3	Don't invest unless you're prepared to lose all the money you invest.
0:25.0	This is a high-risk investment and you should not expect to be protected if something goes wrong.
0:31.2	Support for this show comes from Krakan.
0:33.0	Krypto is like the financial system, but different.
0:37.0	It doesn't care where you come from, what do you look like, your credit score,
0:41.0	or your outrageous food delivery habits.
0:44.1	crypto is finance for everyone everywhere all the time.
0:48.8	Krakhan, see what crypto can be.
0:52.0	Don't invest unless you're prepared to lose all the money you invest.
0:55.0	This is a high-risk investment and you should not expect to be protected if something goes wrong. It's on. on. Hi everyone from New York magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.
1:16.0	This is on with Kara Swisher and I'm Kara Swisher.
1:19.0	Today we're going to talk about a topic I know well but one I wish wasn't so relevant, political
1:24.2	disinformation. Donald Trump's charismatic leadership is built on a
1:28.2	foundation of half-truse, misrepresentation, lies, and conspiracy theories theories in a word
1:33.5	disinformation. From the Bertha conspiracy to his attempt at
1:37.6	manufacturing a barrisma corruption scandal to the big lie and the
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