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Hello and welcome to Coffey House Shots Spectators Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Katie Balls and I'm joined by Freddie Gray,

our deputy editor and the host of the Americano

podcast and Lucy Fisher, the Whitehall editor of the Financial Times.

So David Cameron is stateside he has already stopped by Florida to see Donald Trump and he is now in Washington meeting various Democrats and Republicans.

There are a few different topics on the agenda but what he's really pushing is Ukraine

aid trying to make the case to a divided Republican Party that

is worth offering more to Ukraine despite some reservations.

Freddie, have you got any read-out so far in terms of how that Trump meeting went?

The government being pretty tight-lipped?

No, we haven't. I asked Roger Stone, who's a long-time Trump-consigliere, about it, because he's a Florida resident two resident two and his

reply was is David Cameron still alive so I don't think he's aware of it. And I think generally Trump world,

in as much it knows about David Cameron,

is very suspicious of him.

Steve Bannon, who is still a very influential figure

among Trump advisors, would regard Cameron as a sort of quintessential

globalist America Last globalist and so I don't think I mean I think it's interesting that Cameron went to go and see him because I think it shows that he knows he's on the wrong side of the Republican leadership now he messed up in his last visit to America when he wrote that piece saying that Americans shouldn't be as weak as Chamberlain who was called British.

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