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Sports Cards Nonsense

Will Collectors Gut or Save Beckett? The Future of Grading

Sports Cards Nonsense

Sports Cards Nonsense

Hobbies, Leisure

4.51K Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Mike and Jesse debate the massive acquisition of Beckett (BGS) by Collectors, the parent company of PSA. The guys have vehemently different reactions to the deal: Jesse believes Collectors will "save" the brand by leveraging its history and media assets, while Mike argues BGS is destined to be "gutted" like SGC. They discuss what this "monopoly" means for the hobby and whether it will actually improve PSA’s turnaround times. Then, Gordy Bonker joins the show to break down a major shift in the vintage market, with record-breaking sales for Mickey Mantle and Roberto Clemente cards. He discusses Ken Goldin’s theory about institutional money entering the space and whether hedge funds are finally treating cards like art. Plus, the guys discuss the London Card Show scandal, the new Arena Club "FR34K" packs, and answer a very timely mailbag question about what Collectors might buy next. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Everybody wants to get outraged, and I'm fine with it. Get outraged. If Beckett was doing something and actually

0:03.9

competitive, I'd be outraged too like I was with SG sick. They're not. Sometimes like, I don't know, I think they'll probably get gutted. I don't care. Makes no difference to me. I just realize I'm so stiff and sore. I haven't actually worked in a long time. Like sitting in front of the computer breaking. I am like my shoulders or my back is sore. You know what? I actually noticed people were

0:22.8

asking, do your hands get sore? And my hands didn't get sore. It is the shoulders in the back. The hunch. That's what gets you. Well, how many hours? Yesterday I did two in the morning from eight to like eight to ten. And at night probably six total. See, it's interesting. I have found that I don't like to separate. That's one of the reasons why I do such long streams. I don't like to separate it because then I've got to go and it's like, oh, they had orders on that first one and then they've got orders on that one. Not everybody did, so I've got to go through and figure out who actually did.

0:55.9

And so it's like...

0:56.3

Just move the break. What are you doing? You just move all of the break, like even the stuff that you would have sold to the other one? If nothing breaks in the first show, yeah. Or even if it does, I just combine the orders and just cancel the tracking on one of them. I got you. Yeah. Okay. So big day of sales. Cosmic was huge.

1:12.4

I think we did almost six figures, yeah.

1:14.3

Dear Lord. on one of them. I got you. Yeah. So big day of sales. Cosmic was huge. I think we did almost six

1:13.4

figures, yeah. Dear Lord. That's probably a little high. You know, I exaggerate. I'm going to say,

1:18.2

I've never heard that. 70. $70,000 in Cosmic. Let me look. Dude, my internet, by the way,

1:27.0

this is like riveting.

1:28.0

Start to the show, a few perverts on YouTube.

1:29.7

I can't get my computer to do anything. Yes. Oh, I was close. 82.4. That's more. That's over 70. Not 100, though. Cosmic, by the way. We're obviously going to talk PSA Beckett. The freaking news broke, what, two hours after we stopped recording on Monday.

1:43.8

So thanks for that, Nat Turner.

1:45.4

Hey, hobby nonsense got that scoop.

1:47.2

So that was great. Hey, the nine people who heard it, I'm proud. I'm just, that's a joke, a little thing. That's not, I thought we were joking. You and pray. That's not very nice. That's fine. Here's the thing. I would, it would actually, if it were true. You did get it in time. I got a we were finished recording Um I saw that Ryan had called

2:04.4

I missed Actually, if it were true. You did get it in time. We finished recording.

2:01.5

I saw that Ryan had called.

2:04.6

I missed his call.

2:05.9

When we got done recording, I called him back, got the info.

2:10.1

And I was like, oh, we're adding this back in.

2:12.2

And then you said, Ryan, I guess I missed you.

2:15.7

Office.

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