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What's up, SDS Nation, and welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor, the podcast that promises to bring you, the very best

guests in all of true crime. Of course, this is a show that is so good it happens every Friday great Scott it's your true

crime fill and of course it consists of best guess.

Super special agent retired Scott Duffy of the FBI who is now the

Director of Criminal Justice at Wilmington University in Delaware and of course

America's most respected detective Phil Waters FIL not pH I L he owns kindred spirits investigations he also owns two for all He owns Kindred Spirits Investigations.

He also owns two Ferraris, and he might be in the process of bonding a third because he is nowhere to be found.

Now, God bless him, as he would say to me because he just had a knee

replacement but um Scott Duffy unless I heard incorrectly did Phil Waters not say he was

joining us at 5 p.m. right? Yes he should be joining us today so. Yeah he

told us he has a very high he has a high threshold for pain.

He's doing well.

He's not even taking pain meds and he should be here.

I'm a bit concerned unless, um, unless of course he's I don't know delayed at therapy but it's never

stopped us before Scott happily married to my wife, but I can't help but notice how sporty and handsome you look today.

Just very, you know, sleek with your hoodieie you look very sporty today you look very clean cut

because anyone told you that today you're the first job so, so thank you. You're quite welcome.

Quite welcome.

Meanwhile, some of the, you know, we learned all about the Adelsons,

just a little inside baseball here today.

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