Will Big Bets to Solve Climate Change Pay Off? With Rajiv Shah

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.2 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Are world hunger, pandemics and climate change “fixable” – or is mitigating their impacts the best we can hope for? Is there any point in making them moonshots? In his new book, Big Bets: How Large-Scale Change Really Happens, Rockefeller Foundation President and former Administrator of USAID Rajiv Shah explains how going big impacts motivation – even if the result is a Big Fail. We speak with Shah about the outcome of the recent UN Climate Conference in Dubai (and the overwhelming presence of Big Oil), why he thinks global institutions like the World Bank and the IMF need to be revamped, and whether billionaire philanthropists are the answer to the world’s woes (spoiler: they aren’t). Questions? Comments? Email us at [email protected] or find us on social media. We’re on Instagram/Threads as @karaswisher and @nayeemaraza Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:29.2	and I'm Nayima Raza. Today our guest is Rajiv Shah he's the president of Rockefeller Foundation and the former head of USAID, the Agency for International Development.
1:37.0	We both met him earlier this year when he just published his book, Big Betts, how large-scale change really happens.
1:43.4	Yeah, I met him through Jim Bankoff, who runs Vox, but lots of people I know know him, and I'm
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1:50.9	He's been super involved in tech and has worked for the Gates Foundation.
1:54.0	He worked obviously in the Obama administration in USAID.
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