Che told me, I have a witness for this, and Jay, you want to say I'm a liar? You can sue me.

I hope you don't, because of waste of my time and money, but I will not back down.

You lied. You lied to me. You lied to everybody. You're lying right now.

One of the biggest apostles in America has been lying to everyone. I'm going to expose that right now in this video. I actually spoke with this guy yesterday. He lied to my face and I had told him at the beginning of the meeting that if he did that, if he was dishonest, I would hold him publicly accountable. And this video is me trying to do that. This is part of my series of videos on cover-up culture. I'll link them down below. None of these videos are monetized.

I'm not making anything from this.

And I'm sad to bring it to you, but you need to understand who this guy is.

This is Che-On.

Che-on, he's kind of a big deal.

He is a mega apostle, at least that's my term for him.

An apostle who is head over countless

individuals. He is the pastor of Harvest Rock Church in Pasadena, California, which is just north

of me about an hour, which is why I was able to have an in-person meeting with him yesterday.

The NAR is an organization that has long been talked about and whispered about and

critiqued. And a lot of the folks who were involved in some of the practices, people critique

about the NAR related to apostles and prophets and in time stuff and church government and

things that I believe lead to the disaster of cover-up culture that we've been seeing

in the charismatic church. A lot of those churches will deny it. They'll be like, we're not part of the NAR because they don't have officially used the term. He stands for those who know, I won't get into this in detail, for those who know, he sits in the footsteps in the seat of Peter Wagner. He is in charge of that organization. And he is kind of a big deal. If you look at their network, here let me put this up on your screen. This is what they claim on their website about their network. So you're going to get the back story. I'm going to give you all the details today. And if you are in a hurry, I just suggest to skip towards the end of the video because that's where I think the most egregious lies will be demonstrated. But I want to give it all here today because I want

to do this evidence dump and then move on to other things. Well, the next thing. I have a few more

videos in this series I need to make before I get back to doing verse by verse stuff. So it says

we're a global apostolic family with more than 25,000

affiliated ministries and organizations in over 65 nations. HIM, that stands for Harvest International

Ministries, that is the current branding for the NAR, is actively advancing the kingdom of God

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