My measure, David, and I take a look at when things really began to change.

There's an social culture changes.

I think Will and Grace probably did more to educate the American public

than almost anything anybody's ever done so far.

From WNYC Studios, this is Nancy.

With your host, Tobin Lowe and Kathy too.

So Kathy, do you know why I've dragged us into the studio?

You keep asking me this, but I'll play along.

Why are we here?

Because as of today, Thursday, September 28th on NBC, the National Broadcasting Company.

Let's move this along.

Will and Grace is back.

This show has so much personal importance to me.

So like, while young gay Tobin was looking up gay stuff on the internet

and then wiping the browser clean, this was the show that I could watch out in the open with my parents.

And the characters, I feel like they taught me so much.

Like Will and Grace showed me the sacredness of the gay man's straight girl friendship.

I have $100 in my bank account at 75 of that is earmarked for Belgian wax tomorrow.

It's a Belgian wax.

It's just a plain old wax, but it hurts so much.

I treat myself to a waffle afterwards.

Jack was like a how-to of being flamboyant and proud.

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