Welcome to Bankless, where today we explore the future of humanity.

I think that's what it was.

Yeah, that's always been what Yevall talks about actually.

This is Ryan John Adams.

I'm here in person with my co-host David Hoffman,

and we are here to help you become more bankless.

Guys, we have Yevall, Noah, Harare on the the podcast today and this was a special episode for us because Yevall was like one of the founding his book Sapiens was probably one of the founding documents let's say for the bankless podcast.

Yeah, that's right. I think there's a lot of just

you've all influence across all bankless content I would say 100% and you like for my own

part his his ideas around money being a story being

inter subjective reality kind of got me into crypto in the in the first place he's got a new

book called nexus that just came out his third His third book. And so we read that and

prep for this meeting. It's all about information networks and how that is like a

super set of the story and the document and ledgers. Stories scaled.

I would say it stories scaled with technology is how I would define it.

Stories scaled with technology and I think of course you know we think

cryptocurrency property rights systems like ethereal

ethereal and also Bitcoin and other crypto assets are one of the most interesting stories.

Some of the greatest stories ever.

A new intersubjective reality.

So we got to that at the end, but we really started with his kind of thesis on

information networks and what those actually are the lens of them. He's got an idea

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