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An associate editor no or a thman. Hi Noah. Hi John. And joining us today

our old friend commentary contributor American enterprise institute scholar and pen

gendram at the Boyd and Gray something or other institute at George Mason University Boyd and

Gray being an old old friend of mine, White House counsel to the first president Bush

Adam White. Hi Adam. How are you? What is the name of the Boyd and Gray school of Boyd and Grayism?

Adam White. It is the the C Boyd and Gray Center for the study of the administrative state at George

Mason University's Antonin Scalia Law School. And thanks for having me a long time listener first

time caller. So Adam we we I turned to you as my my my private legal theorist scholar and so I was

pelting you with texts and emails yesterday about the oral arguments before the Supreme Court in

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