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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Will A.I. really kill us all?

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Amid the multi-trillion dollar stampede to build and control A.I., one question is being drowned out: Will artificial intelligence kill the entire human race, and all life on the planet? Nate Soares is president of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute and co-author of a chilling exploration of the race to create artificial super-intelligence, If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies. He tells Andrew Harrison why the concept of an omnicidal super-A.I.is not just an outside possibility from sci-fi but almost a certainty – why the A.I. boosters’ safeguards won’t work – and what we must do if we are to survive as a species.  Buy If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies⁠ through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll be helping The Bunker by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. • Head to https://www.nakedwines.co.uk/thebunker to get a £30 voucher and 6 top-rated wines from our sponsor Naked Wines for £39.99, delivery included. • We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to Indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit. www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Written and presented by Andrew Harrison. Producer: Liam Tait. Audio production by Robin Warren. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, it's Andrew Harrison here. This edition of The Bunker comes with support from Ancestry,

0:05.7

the online database that helps you discover your family history. We're coming up to Remembrance Day,

0:11.1

and it's a time when a lot of us think about what our families were experiencing during the war.

0:15.1

Both are my granddad's fort in the Second World War. One was held prisoner in Italy, and for a while

0:19.3

my nan didn't know whether he was alive or dead. The other was in the tanks, and he never spoke much about it. I feel like I ought to know more

0:26.2

about what they and their families went through. So Ancestry is doing something special over the

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remembrance period. They're giving free access to selected global wartime records, so you can begin

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to discover what your family did on the

0:38.3

frontline and the home front. Register with ancestry, and until Wednesday the 12th of November,

0:43.4

you can access 6.9 million wartime records from around the world for free. You can see the

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0:55.0

home front too, so you can discover stories of courage and resilience in your family.

0:59.8

Register at Ancestry.co.uk or search Ancestry.com.uker, To start your free searches.

1:07.8

Honor your family's legacy and bring their story to life at Ancestry.co.uk. Hello, it's Andrew Harrison here. And it's Alex von Tundleman. Today's episode is brought to you by naked wines. Alex, buying wines. Have you ever bought a bottle because it costs 12 quid, but it looks like it costs 20 quid? Well, whenever I can find one. It can be confusing, can't it? You find yourself sort of grasping up whatever's on the shelf and hoping for the best. What do you sense like to drink yourself? Well, I generally drink white wine, but I mean, I like all wines. I didn't get this way by having favour, it's, Andrew. Well, I'm the male stereotype. I like reds that are bangers, reds that are chewy. It's a bit kind of roulette, isn't it? You never quite know what you're going to guess. You know, I just don't know it at all.

1:45.9

I mean, I am pretty ignorant about it.

1:47.4

I have to say,

1:48.0

I know. are bangers, reds that are chewy. It's a bit kind of roulette, isn't it? You never quite know what you're going to get. You know, I just don't know at all. I mean, I am pretty ignorant

1:47.0

about it. I have to say, I know what I like, but I don't always know how to find it.

1:50.7

There you go. Well, the good thing about naked wines is they'll help guide you towards wines

1:54.7

that you will really like. And you can try new stuff without the risk because if you don't like a bottle, you don't pay for it.

2:02.0

Oh, okay.

2:04.4

Yeah, you let them know and they credit your account.

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