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🗓️ 9 October 2025
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It’s a moment of hope — and some skepticism — amid a war that’s had an enormous toll.
Where might this 20-point peace plan lead?
You'll hear from NPR's Daniel Estrin, as well as some of the many people in Gaza and in Israel who’ve talked to our reporters over the last two years.
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| 0:00.0 | After two years of bloodshed, Israel and Hamas have agreed to phase one of a ceasefire deal. |
| 0:05.8 | I think it's going to be a lasting peace, hopefully, an everlasting peace. |
| 0:09.6 | Peace in the Middle East. |
| 0:10.7 | That's President Trump speaking at the White House today. |
| 0:13.2 | It is a moment of hope amid a war that has had an enormous toll. |
| 0:17.5 | More than 67,000 Palestinians have been killed during Israel's military campaign in Gaza. |
| 0:23.8 | That's according to Gaza's health ministry. Israeli bombs have flattened entire towns and leveled tens of |
| 0:30.3 | thousands of buildings. In Israel, residents still feel the ripple effects of Hamas's 2023 attack. |
| 0:37.1 | The Israeli government says 48 hostages |
| 0:39.1 | remain in Gaza, of the 251 people taken into captivity on October 7th. Less than half of them |
| 0:46.2 | are believed to still be alive. And families continue to mourn the roughly 1,200 people who were |
| 0:51.8 | killed that day. In the last two years, NPR reporters have met many people in Gaza and Israel |
| 0:57.5 | who have talked about the impact of the war and what it would take to rebuild, move forward. |
| 1:03.3 | Ahmed Aide is a father in Gaza. |
| 1:05.1 | He spoke with NPR after a ceasefire was announced earlier this week and said it was way too soon to celebrate. |
| 1:15.3 | He says, what exactly should I be happy for with all the bloodshed and martyrs? |
| 1:22.9 | Aide says he's lost 150 family members in the Israeli attacks over the last two years. He's been |
| 1:29.6 | living in a tent with his children, displaced from his home. He says people have no food or water. |
| 1:36.1 | More Godard lost both her parents in a Hamas-led attack on Hergobuts on October 7th. She says |
| 1:42.0 | her father's body is still being held by militants in Gaza as a |
| 1:45.8 | bargaining chip in the war. Recently, she told NPR's Daniel Estrin about the toll of the war. |
| 1:50.9 | I lost my trust in the country. |
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