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🗓️ 1 November 2022
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CalFire dispatcher Beth Bowersox was on duty the morning the Camp Fire ignited. She joins Host Cassie De Pecol to share what it was like behind the scenes as a first responder, and her decision to evacuate all of her hometown of Paradise. Later, UCLA climate scientist Daniel Swain discusses whether there could be another Camp Fire.
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0:07.0 | A listener note. This episode contains discussion of suicide. |
0:11.4 | From Monday, I'm Cassie Depecle, and this is Against the Odds. |
0:33.5 | Imagine you're coming off a long shift as a Cal Fire dispatcher early on the |
0:38.2 | morning of November 8, 2018. But then, the 911 calls start coming in. There's a fire |
0:45.7 | closing in around the towns of Paradise, Magalia, and Concal. Emergency responders call it the |
0:52.5 | campfire, and the blaze is spreading faster than any wildfire you can remember. Colors are |
0:58.9 | terrified and looking to you for help, as their homes disappear in the flames. By the time the |
1:05.4 | campfire is extinguished, it will be known as the deadliest fire in California history. My |
1:11.5 | guest today is Beth Bauersox. She works as a communications operator with Cal Fire, and was a |
1:17.2 | dispatcher on duty the day the campfire ignited. Beth also lived in Paradise at the time of the |
1:22.5 | fire. Later, we'll hear from climate scientist Daniel Swain about his own experience with the |
1:28.6 | campfire and how wildfires are linked to climate change. All that's coming up next. |
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