Before we get started, a heads up that this episode mentions eating disorders,

particularly binge eating disorder and anorexia, and while it's constructive

in many ways, depending on your background, this could be triggering for you.

I'm not an expert or a medical professional. So if you're struggling, call the National

Eating Disorder Helpline at 1-800 931-2237.

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I'm Gail Stub and you're listening to She Explores.

With rock climbing, when you're like on a pitch and you're trying to get to like the next hold you really have no time to think about how your body looks or like ooh this part of my body is jiggly.

You're really just focusing on this next hold. You don't have enough time to like really allow

that in disorder voice to come in. This is Kristen Ailes and whether or not you understand what she means by that eating disorder voice,

I think that you can probably relate to this episode in some way.

Maybe you've gone to bed hungry. Maybe you've pinched the soft of your

stomach or the skin on your inner thighs. Maybe you've counted calories in your head. Maybe you were confused when your body

started to look different when you are 10, 11, 12, 12, 30, 45.

Perhaps you have a loved one, a family member,

a friend who all of a sudden you felt like you couldn't talk to anymore.

Who withdrew?

Who shrunk before your eyes?

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